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By Albert Kang
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Uploaded Jun 26, 2020. Captured Aug 6, 2019 19:37.
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https://www.reeflex.net/tiere/11108_Sabellastarte_australiensis.htm Posted 5 years ago
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Indonesia/@-1.8785136,78.0556148,3z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x2c4c07d7496404b7:0xe37b4de71badf485!8m2!3d-0.789275!4d113.921327
some very close to Australia! Posted 5 years ago, modified 5 years ago
A quick Google Search will show the distribution in Australia to South Australia :
https://bie.ala.org.au/species/22083037
However, since my ID is qustionable, I am happy to change it to Sabellastarte sp. Posted 5 years ago
where I received a notification from JD that you have changed the species name to Rhopalaea fusca without asking me first if I agree. The fact is neither you nor I are experts for species identifications. We both do our bests and at times we may be wrong but I prefer not to touch your spottings or that you do not touch mine without first asking as I do not consider this correct in any social media that I can imagine. So please, feel free to name your species as best as you can and let me do the same with mine. And unless you do not have a very obvious picture accompanied by convincing facts that my ID in a picture is wrong please do not touch it. I can promise you I will do the same with yours. Moreover, if you are not able to also say something nice about my spottings once in a while then I beg you to just leave them alone. Thanks for your understanding! Posted 5 years ago, modified 5 years ago
Note that I will not pick sides, that isn't my goal. I love you both and have both of you in the highest regard. I also am 100% convinced that both of you act in good faith and have the best intentions, the dispute largely being about tone and methods, not intentions.
And, I recognize we live in drastic times, some of us are on the edge. I know I am, at least.
That said, some thoughts on process:
- ID correction suggestions are a good thing and in almost all cases, are an act of help. However, tone and method matters. Guidance: for new identifications, no discussions are needed. For corrections/removals, it's common courtesy to comment and provide evidence so that we can all learn.
- Direct messages are not recommended for this type of discussion. They are to exchange private information. ID discussions are not secret and are recommended to take place publicly, in the comment system. Direct messages can come across as more critical, plus I can't see them, so can't help in any case.
- When two people make claims and evidence is not conclusive to settle on an ID, we agree to disagree. This should not be an emotional event, it should be business as usual.
- Leaving each other posts alone is not the idea of JD. We should very much engage in each other posts including identifications, it's a community process. Yet with the proper tone, see above. Likewise, we should not do "revenge corrections" as seen above. I understand, this is a reaction to an action.
I'll end with a philosophical angle. This was bad, but forgiveness is around the corner. I've seen several life time breakups amidst friends and family, all starting from a dispute over a tiny thing. It's never worth it. Never. Life's too short.
We can take a step back, learn from this, and find forgiveness, even if you think you're in the right. Believe me it is what you want, the alternative is so much worse. The past is the past.
As I'm running out of healing phrases, how am I doing? Career switch to be a mentor, or no?
Posted 5 years ago