Stick on Stick

How many Phasmids can you see in this picture?

There are 2 of them, both from different species. The bigger one hanging down from her front legs is from the genus Mnesilochus, still an undescribed species. She is resting in a typical posture of Phasmids from the genus Mnesilochus, mimicking a stick/branch.

The second Phasmid is a male from the genus Neoclides. He is resting upside down on his front legs with his abdomen pointing upwards to the right of the picture, a typical resting posture of the genus Neoclides. This Neoclides species could also be an undescribed species.