Tiger Grass Borer ?

I'm not sure Tiger Grass Borer ?
from north in Thailand

comments (11)

Mark Ridgway

Lion

I think not Syntomoides imaon because there are too many abdomen bands.
I think it might be Ceryx sphenodes - compare here http://thailandwildlife.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Moths-of-Thailand/G00000.jchdXXom4/I0000qLjKO2pfxE4 Posted 9 years ago, modified 9 years ago
1. ChanacholaThailand
  
  Lion
  
  thank you very much Posted 9 years ago
2. WildFlower
  
  Lion
  
  This is not a Ceryx sp. but more likely an Amata sp.
  Ceryx sp. have 2 larger clear spots towards the base of the forewing and this one has 3.
  http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=76973
  http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/arct/cten-moths.html
  
  Here it is identified as Amata hirayamae
  http://www.thaibugs.com/?page_id=210
  but others are not exactly the same
  http://www.taibif.tw/zh/namecode/343782
  http://gaga.biodiv.tw/new23/9401/w08.htm Posted 9 years ago, modified 9 years ago
3. 1. Mark Ridgway
    
    Lion
    
    Thanks WildFlower. It seems the electron microscope needs to be cranked up for so many of these syntomids. Posted 9 years ago
  2. 1. WildFlower
      
      Lion
      
      No, it's a matter of spots both on the wings and the body. Unfortunately those from Thailand that match are identifies wrong and I couldn't find a list of the species that are found there. Posted 9 years ago
    2. 1. Mark Ridgway
        
        Lion
        
        The previous was a general comment only. The established difference between Ceryx and Amata is that C lack 3 of the hind wing veins present in Amata. For many of the 40 or more Amata in Australia even experts say patterns might not be definitive of species due to sp. similarity and variation.
        Many Amata have had a synonym of Ceryx over the years.. but I agree this one is likely Amata. Posted 9 years ago

Vodkaman

Lion

I agree, this is nothing like Syntomoides imaon.

Dave Posted 9 years ago
1. ChanacholaThailand
  
  Lion
  
  thank you very much ^_^ Posted 9 years ago

Vodkaman

Lion

Ceryx sphenodes is a strong contender, but I haven't done any work and don't know how reliable this site is:
http://thailandwildlife.photoshelter.com/image/I0000U5Iez9ENWiY

I can say from personal experience, that these clearwing moths are very tedious to ID. I have about ten specimens needing work.

Dave Posted 9 years ago

RMFelix

Lion

Beautiful! Please don't forget to Set Country info. Cheers* Posted 9 years ago

Vodkaman

Lion

This now has me looking closer at ceryx for some of mine with no ID.

Three fab postings. Can't wait to see what you have for us next.

Dave Posted 9 years ago

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