Nemoria coupena, La Planada Nature Reserve, Colombia

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Christine Young

Lion

Nemoria sp.?
Posted 6 years ago, modified 6 years ago
1. Christine Young
  
  Lion
  
  Or, Lissochlora sp. Posted 6 years ago
2. 1. Ferdy Christant
    
    Lion
    
    Thanks! Both genuses seem possible based on color, shape, and the explicit outline pattern of the wings. The missing piece of the puzzle are the stain-like dark marks that don't seem common in these genuses. Although....this one seems close:
    
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/21416152
    
    It may be it if you check the marks, it's just that the bottom half of mine is faded :) Posted 6 years ago, modified 6 years ago
  2. 1. Christine Young
      
      Lion
      
      Close...Lissochlora janamariae is also similar:
      
      https://www.redalyc.org/pdf/455/45531496016.pdf Posted 6 years ago
    2. 1. Christine Young
        
        Lion
        
        Another close one: Nemoria scriptaria
        Posted 6 years ago
      2. Ferdy Christant
        
        Lion
        
        Hard! I'm thinking both Nemoria ozalea and Nemoria scriptaria are great candidates because they match having an explicit, dark pattern at the top half of the wings. For Lissochlora janamariae, this does not seem the case, or perhaps its too hard to tell from the small photos in the report.
        
        Nemoria ozalea and Nemoria scriptaria both seem observed around Costa Rica, no clear winner.
        
        I find Nemoria ozalea a slightly stronger match because:
        - The black pattern in the top half overlaps with the abdomen.
        - The bottom half pattern is connected, not disconnected marks
        
        Yet I'm seeing differences between individuals that make these theories pretty soft. At this point, I'm not really sure. It could even be a 3rd species.
        Posted 6 years ago
        
        Christine Young
        
        Lion
        
        What about Nemoria coupena? Posted 6 years ago
        
        Ferdy Christant
        
        Lion
        
        Whoa, that instantly resolves all doubts, it has the faded bottom half. And I know how you found it :) Thank you so much for the persistence. Posted 6 years ago
        
        Christine Young
        
        Lion
        
        Hehe, that’s exactly how I found it... Posted 6 years ago

Rodrigo Bernal

Bull Frog

What about Nemoria hypotiches? Look at this specimen from Pichincha, Ecuador, en the Zoological Collection in Munich:
http://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=590526 Posted 6 years ago
1. Ferdy Christant
  
  Lion
  
  That is very interesting. If you search for reference photos online of Nemoria coupena, you'll find only a few of which the ID is not that certain. The candidate species you provide may in fact be the true ID of those misidentified Nemoria coupena amateur photos? What do you think? Posted 6 years ago