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Copper underwing, Heesch, Netherlands Henriette took this photo today in our garden with her iPhone whilst I was at work, so this is her contribution to Moth Week 2018 :)<br />
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In dutch named the &quot;pyramid butterfly&quot;. Interestingly it shares a lot of characteristics with a species named the &quot;fake (or mimic) pyramid butterfly&quot; - Amphipyra berbera (Drab Copper Underwing). Enough similarities for somebody to write a detailed article to keep them apart (in dutch)<br />
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I based identification on key 3: the equal distance between horizontal lines, which is more diverging in the other candidate species. Furthermore, an expert confirmed it. Amphipyra pyramidea,Copper underwing,Moth Week 2018 Click/tap to enlarge Country intro

Copper underwing, Heesch, Netherlands

Henriette took this photo today in our garden with her iPhone whilst I was at work, so this is her contribution to Moth Week 2018 :)

In dutch named the "pyramid butterfly". Interestingly it shares a lot of characteristics with a species named the "fake (or mimic) pyramid butterfly" - Amphipyra berbera (Drab Copper Underwing). Enough similarities for somebody to write a detailed article to keep them apart (in dutch)

https://assets.vlinderstichting.nl/docs/548c2775-4f8d-490f-912f-327d52176611.pdf

I based identification on key 3: the equal distance between horizontal lines, which is more diverging in the other candidate species. Furthermore, an expert confirmed it.

    comments (17)

  1. Gorgeous individual! Posted 7 years ago
    1. Thanks, it seems in a good state of health. Posted 7 years ago
  2. What a great daytime find! Yay for Henriette! Posted 7 years ago
    1. She's a great spotter, much better than me :) Posted 7 years ago
      1. Well then, you make the perfect team! And, it's because women are better with details ;) Posted 7 years ago
        1. Christine, I must be the exception! :D Posted 7 years ago
        2. That I agree with. It's because women are better at everything.

          I know we're just being silly, but when people are very serious and strong headed about some generalizations, I drop the above line. It kills all conversation and people hate it, because it's such an anti climax. The anticipation of the debate, the carefully prepared facts and statements and arguments...all worthless in one sentence. There's just....nothing.

          It's a nice Jedi mind trick, feel free to use it on other topics, subjects.

          By the way, JD is quite a power house of women, I'm sure you noticed. And I'm proud of that.
          Posted 7 years ago
      2. My husband is the same! He has much better eyesight than me, so he is always seeing things that I don't! Posted 7 years ago
        1. I have perfect eyesight (not naturally, I have contacts) that is better than Henriette. So in our case its purely the spotting skill that differs. I just don't have it. Posted 7 years ago
          1. I can't stand wearing contacts (sensory processing issues), so I'm always wearing glasses. Glare and sweat can prove a problem (especially in summertime) with them, unfortunately.

            I should probably give myself more credit--as there are things I notice that he doesn't. Maybe we just make a good team?
            Posted 7 years ago
            1. Indeed another nice exampel of two people with different skills maximizing results, nice.
              Since I recently had an eye infection and was forced to wear glasses for a few days, I can now relate somewhat to wearing glasses. I'll be honest: I hated it with a passion.
              Posted 7 years ago
              1. I hike mostly alone, but when I hike with my kids (both boys) and my husband, they are a HUGE help at spotting things and together we see much more than I do by myself...But, I do love to tease, joke, and poke. My husband has nicknamed me "bb" because of this. Try to figure out what that means...Here's a hint: the second word is "buster". But, seriously, I don't think women are better at everything, as Ferdy seems to believe, hehe...(see that's a joke - or is it a Jedi mind trick??) Posted 7 years ago
                1. Well played, clever :) I'm sorry, I have no idea what the first B stands for, tell me?

                  The reason I'm very relaxed about debates versus sexes or any other topic that has the potential to divide people is that the outcome is inconsequential. There will never be a clear outcome because of the nature of the question. Even if there would be a clear outcome, it still has no consequence.

                  For example, say it is true that women are better at everything, as a clear observable fact. What now? I'm still a man. I have to live with that fixed situation no matter the outcome. So nothing is gained or lost in any case. For the same reason, I do not debate religion or strong political opinions because there is no clear rational outcome, positions are fixed, and all energy spend on it is completely pointless.

                  It makes for much more relaxed living once you let this go. Sorry for going so far off-topic and rambling, bottom line for me is to take one individual at a time no matter their identity. And very luckily, JD seems to be a place where good prevails. It is quite frankly a source of hope for humanity for me, much needed at times.
                  Posted 7 years ago
                  1. I agree. I don't think people should be classified or judged based on gender, nationality, religion, etc. You cannot categorize a whole group of people in that way. It just doesn't make sense. People are who they are as individuals. And, yeah, it's definitely pointless to argue about it because as you said, there is no clear outcome and positions are often static. Posted 7 years ago
                    1. And what about bb? Tell me now! Posted 7 years ago
                      1. Ugh, I was totally ignoring that question and hoped you would not notice. I’m not saying what the first ‘b’ stands for, but I will give you a clue: it is a round, bouncy object that is used in sports or as a toy for children. But, in the phrase, this word is used to imply a different definition of the word. The second word is ‘buster’.

                        It must be an American expression if you don’t know it. Basically, it refers to someone who is a jokester or likes to tease people.
                        Posted 7 years ago
                        1. Thanks, I can fill in the blanks now and am well aware of that expression and what it means hehe. Teasing within a family is fun, we've advanced it into unknown territories ourselves :) Posted 7 years ago

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The copper underwing, humped green fruitworm, or pyramidal green fruitworm is a moth of the family Noctuidae. It is distributed across the Palaearctic region including north India, Korea and Japan.

Similar species: Moths And Butterflies
Species identified by Ferdy Christant
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By Ferdy Christant

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