Black Anthurium / Black Queen, Colombia

A mysteriously dark flower found in the wild, one that is highly sought after by collectors, thus removing the exact geotag from this photo. I'm double checking the exact species, as there seem to be multiple species with dark spades:
https://www.aroid.org/gallery/croat/0370011.pdf

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WildFlower

Lion

Do you have a photo of the leaf? Posted 7 years ago
1. Ferdy Christant
  
  Lion
  
  Not a good one. I had taken this with my zoom lens which did not allow for a wide view of the plant. In this other photo you can see part of the leaf:
  
  It seems consistent (from memory) with Thibaud's photo which does show a leaf:
  
  Posted 7 years ago, modified 7 years ago
2. 1. WildFlower
    
    Lion
    
    Neither of the photos show enough of the leaf to see the exact shape. You can see in the article in fig. 1 and fig. 2A that the difference in the shape is in the lower half of the leaf which is missing. However, it looks rather wider than narrow. I have asked Thibaud if he is sure about his ID and if he has another photo.
    The description states that Anthurium cabrerense is very poorly known and has been confused with A. caramantae. Posted 7 years ago
  2. 1. Ferdy Christant
      
      Lion
      
      Yes, that article I found makes me doubtful about many identifications online. All I got from our guide was "Black Antharium", without an exact species name. Posted 7 years ago
    2. Ferdy Christant
      
      Lion
      
      Another piece of information: our guide claimed this specific plant to be worth about 100$ in trade, based on rarity. For Anthurium cabrerense, this seems to not be true as several people grow it and you can buy it for as low as 20$. So either it was an exaggeration, or this is a different species. Posted 7 years ago
    3. 1. WildFlower
        
        Lion
        
        It depends on how well your guide knows the Anthurium species.
        Photos of Anthurium cabrerense from different nurseries correspond to A. caramantae according to the article. Fig. 2A is the drawing from the original description of Anthurium cabrerense and the leaf shape is clearly different.
        http://home.sandiego.edu/~kaufmann/aroids/ecuador.html
        http://www.ecuagenera.com/Anthurium-cabrerense/en
        http://www.aroidpictures.fr/GENERA/ANTHURIUMA-L/anthcaramantae.html
        http://www.phytoimages.siu.edu/imgs/paraman1/r/Araceae_Anthurium_caramantae_35002.html Posted 7 years ago