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Uploaded Apr 16, 2016. Captured Jul 31, 2013 10:32 in Jl. Lavender No.8, Ciwaruga, Parongpong, Kabupaten Bandung Barat, Jawa Barat, Indonesia.
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http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=469131
http://www.papua-insects.nl/insect%20orders/Lepidoptera/Sesiidae/Sesiidae%20list.htm
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/29334b0dfb069079c555503fa1bb051c/synonym/762830cc6f97928685f191db61e5d627
http://www.sesiidae.net/Checklst.htm Posted 9 years ago, modified 9 years ago
But, the only image from a reliable source 'Bold Systems' is nipponica:
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=207077
I agree, this is too far away, but javana was definitely not a match. I am happy with sangaica, and feel fortunate to get this far.
Many thanks :)
Dave Posted 9 years ago
http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/Zoology/pdf_hi/SCTZ-0180.pdf
It's true that the wing patterns of Melittia sangaica look very much like that of the above group of species and apart from that it is hard to find other differences on these dry specimens. Comparing the wings, both Melittia sangaica subspecies seem to have longer forewings related to the hindwings. I don't know if it is a significant difference but you can see it on this photo taken in Japan.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/aeschylus18917/5921276016/
Yours has shorter forewings
This one is from Thailand and it looks shorter too. Thailand is in the middle so I don't know what it may be...
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/lennyworthington/16290315622/
If it is Melittia sangaica at all, the differences between Melittia sangaica nipponica and Melittia sangaica sangaica are described here. Unfortunately we cannot see the ventrally located spots.
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/els/110007630912.pdf?id=ART0009450399&type=pdf&lang=en&host=cinii&order_no=&ppv_type=0&lang_sw=&no=1460897624&cp= Posted 9 years ago
I have read all the documents with interest. Some of this material I have not seen before, despite spending a lot of time in the past.
The difference that I see between the sexes, is that the male forewing has a distinctive corner, whereas the female wing is always rounded. In my specimen, the corner is particularly sharp.
There is one particular feature that is present in nipponica that is not present in most other species. If you look at the front wing. From the bar, pointing inboard, there is an extra spike or spur in the venation. I did notice in the Thailand new species document, that the drawing of sangaica sangaica also showed this spur.
The map distribution for sangaica sangaica is equally depressing, all three locations being in the mid to north China, but still closer than the Japan of nipponica.
The abdomen of sangaica sangaica does appear to be narrower than nipponica.
As for the javana species, it just doesn’t fit.
Looking at the distribution of hairs on the abdomen. Nipponica looks good.
On my specimen, the front pair of legs are covered in yellow hairs. The mid pair are black with three distinct white spots of hair. This feature must be documented somewhere. Len’s image of nipponica shows the white spots on the leg, lighter tuft of hair on the trailers, wing spur, and looks identical to my specimen.
The blue abdomen rings shown on Daniel Ruyle’s nipponica image are also a match.
In the absence of a reliable sangaica sangaica image, and the overwhelming evidence of nipponica, despite the geographical unliklihood, I personally am for nipponica. There is no evidence of anything close in Java.
The entomology of Sangaica needs a good shake-up, because this is just not correct.
Dave Posted 9 years ago