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  1. This is so strikingly beautiful! I have never seen anything like it! Posted 7 months ago
  2. Incredible! It looks like a ladybug ;)

    My first thoughts are either lymantriidae or lasiocampidae...
    Posted 7 months ago
    1. Or, maybe a Saturniid (Subfamily Hemileucinae)? Posted 7 months ago
      1. Thanks, Christine. I'm unable to find anything similar looking yet in lymantriidae or lasiocampidae.
        As for saturniid kind of the same story and I think they are usually quite large?

        I should perhaps have indicated its size in the first place :) I'd say top to bottom about 2-3cm, pretty small.

        Such an explicit look yet so hard :)
        Posted 7 months ago
    2. I was telling Jason the exact thing about it looking like a ladybug! It is wild!! Posted 7 months ago
      1. Maybe its mimicking one? Posted 7 months ago
        1. Not mimicking Ferdy. They would need to coexist on the same plant, environment, have years of interactions that would benefit them (what would a lady beetle benefit the moth besides the warning coloring which can be obtained from anything else and is a general rule of warning color?). Also, the coloring similarities, even when identical may not indicate any cause of mimicking. Such as the genus Cryptanura. Take a look at my post on Cryptanura and it will explain it better. There are creatures with the same traits as Cryptanura that are probably not mimics. Holymenia clavigera is, though. This moth, for instance, would also need to have other similar behaviors to an insect in order to be considered a mimic. An example of mimetism is Dycladia sp. and Lycid beetles; the Lycid beetles have an extremely foul taste that predators tend to avoid. Dycladia are found in the same environment overall as Lycid beetles and due to some natural prank they evolved to acquire the benefit of scaring away birds due to the Lycids' foul taste. I've seen "identical" insects of different orders that are not mimics. What is scientifically comproved is that, for example, Cryptanura is mimetized by Holymenia clavigera and maybe a few others. Posted 7 months ago
          1. My recommendation: Create a DISQUS account on Insetologia - https://www.insetologia.com.br/2016/07/lagarta-em-pimentao-em-sao-paulo.html

            On the comments, post the picture followed by location found and, if possible, date. Any other details such as wingspan or size, or host plant or plant found will help. Cesar will try to identify it (can take from 2 to 3 days, never more). He is a friend of mine and owner of the site. I think he can understand English really well, if he can't call me up and I will translate it for you. Or you can write the whole text and show me or Christine and I will translate it to portuguese so you can post there and he understands better. I won't promise an ID since it is a moth, but I believe he can at least come to a discussion as to what he believes.
            Posted 7 months ago
            1. I'ts not working for me. I already have a Disqus account and am logged in but whenever I try to comment there it says I should be logged in first :( Thanks for the suggestion though! Posted 7 months ago
      2. It really does look like the ladybug version of a moth. So cute! Posted 7 months ago
      3. Thanks a lot to Lisa and her professor for giving the essential clue that this concerns the Edebessa genus!
        Which has only 3 species. I checked reference photos of all three and most likely match seems to be Edebessa bicolor.
        Posted 7 months ago
        1. I'm so happy my contact could be of help! He is amazing! Posted 7 months ago
          1. As are you! Posted 7 months ago
            1. So awesome that you got an ID!! Posted 7 months ago
  3. So beautiful! Posted 7 months ago
  4. Soooo, I asked Oscar Neto about this moth, and he did some research and found a photo of a similar one:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/entomopixel/39507016982/in/photostream/

    Unfortunately, there is no ID. But, he said he'd keep looking, which is very hopeful because if anyone can find an insect ID, it's Oscar!
    Posted 7 months ago
    1. He did say that his best guess would be Lasiocampidae. But, not all genera have photos online, so it may be really difficult to find a match. Posted 7 months ago
      1. I'm not even sure it is a Lasiocampid. It's my best bet so far, but moths have way too many families which include subfamilies and tribes and many genera. Best bet so far is Lasiocampidae but not an affirmation. The picture I provided is not the same individual, unless some sexual dimorphism is present, but probably in the same genus (when it comes to moths I doubt every single thing and detail). However, I can't even affirm it is in the same genus (although it is ID'less anyway, there). Posted 7 months ago
        1. Finding the ID of the moth in the picture I provided will show the possible correct direction of at least a tribe that can be looked into to find your specimen's ID. Posted 7 months ago
          1. Thanks so much for adding your thoughts, Oscar. Você é muito apreciado! Posted 7 months ago
    2. Thanks for asking Oscar, I will try some of his tips!
      Interesting that the reference describes it as a large moth: it isn't.
      Posted 7 months ago
      1. Sure thing. Maybe a similar genus to the photo, if not the same genus. That is weird about the size difference though. I hope you can get an ID! It's so distinct that I assumed it would be an easy ID at first! But, I am thinking that there are no easy IDs with most S. American moths! Posted 7 months ago
        1. I also tried a reverse image search where you input the image and Google tries to find a similar one: matches were not even close. Ah well, somehow I have a feeling that one day we will run into the ID of this one. It's too explicit to be unnamed. Posted 7 months ago

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''Edebessa bicolor'' is a moth of the Megalopygidae family. It was described by Heinrich Benno Möschler in 1883. It is found in Suriname and French Guiana.

The wingspan is about 57 mm. The wings are black with red markings. There is a large annular spot at the base of the forewings, from the subcostal to the submedian. There is also a quadrate spot from vein 3 to the costa, filled in with black, which is crossed by the discocellular. A red line runs from the outer costal angle of this.. more

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Uploaded Dec 9, 2018. Captured Oct 18, 2018 20:09 in Orito, Putumayo, Colombia.
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